Reticulatus
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Post by Reticulatus on Jan 2, 2012 12:53:44 GMT -5
the false gharial is larger than the average caimen but it maybe all snout. anyways jag winS 8/10 on land. Gharial wins in the water 7/10.
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Post by Anomonyous on Jan 2, 2012 19:57:49 GMT -5
Black caimen the largest and arguably most formidable alligator species has found itself on the jaguars menu. Don't think so. All the videos show smaller caimans.
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Post by Canid Cetus Aves on Jan 2, 2012 20:55:17 GMT -5
The only weapon the Gharial has really, are it's jaws. But even those are very narrow and not as strong compared to other different Crocodiles/Alligators. I think the Jaguar would win this.
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Post by Taurus on Jan 2, 2012 21:18:51 GMT -5
Black caimen the largest and arguably most formidable alligator species has found itself on the jaguars menu. Don't think so. All the videos show smaller caimans. Still Jaguar are quite larger than all prey items that False Gharial taken. Deer that False Gharial prey on, turns out that only largest deer that the gharial attacked were barking deer and mouse deer. Sambar and Rusa deer also existed in the habitat but they are too large for a False Gharial to attack.
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Post by Ultimategrid on Jan 3, 2012 1:09:37 GMT -5
Honestly I have yet to see a large crocodilian (over 16ft) fall victim to any cat. I am beginning to doubt this is even possible. I've seen only small caiman and sick mugger crocs.
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Post by Taurus on Jan 3, 2012 9:49:46 GMT -5
Honestly I have yet to see a large crocodilian (over 16ft) fall victim to any cat. I am beginning to doubt this is even possible. I've seen only small caiman and sick mugger crocs. Another problem is that Gharials are ill suited to tackle down large prey.
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Post by Anomonyous on Jan 3, 2012 22:28:43 GMT -5
The gharial can use its tail, but lacks other weapons. If the cat is swift enough to avoid it, then it should win.
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Post by Ultimategrid on Jan 4, 2012 3:09:25 GMT -5
Honestly I have yet to see a large crocodilian (over 16ft) fall victim to any cat. I am beginning to doubt this is even possible. I've seen only small caiman and sick mugger crocs. Another problem is that Gharials are ill suited to tackle down large prey. Well a man was recently killed by a false gharial, if you do not consider humans large prey then what is considered large prey?
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Post by Taurus on Jan 4, 2012 9:56:33 GMT -5
Another problem is that Gharials are ill suited to tackle down large prey. Well a man was recently killed by a false gharial, if you do not consider humans large prey then what is considered large prey? We have no way to know if a fisherman was killed by a gharial or different crocodile or drowned. All they found is remains of fisherman in a gharial's stomache. It is a freak case. Indian gharials was once labelled maneaters because they have human remains in their stomaches. Turns out that Indian Gharials have feeding on human corpses from Hindu funeral burial ritual. I don't fancy the gharial's chances against a jaguar, no matter how big the gharial is, it is ill suited to tackle down a 150+ lbs robust cat.
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Post by Super Communist on Jan 4, 2012 15:07:59 GMT -5
I would say that a jaguar would have a difficult time killing a much larger false gharial as well.
It took half an hour for this jaguar to kill a caiman that was its own size if not smaller;
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Post by Taurus on Jan 4, 2012 15:14:21 GMT -5
I would say that a jaguar would have a difficult time killing a much larger false gharial as well. It took half an hour for this jaguar to kill a caiman that was its own size if not smaller; Yes the jaguar will have difficult time to kill a false gharial but it has greater chances than false gharial. Also the jaguar was struggling to get out of the water with a caiman in its mouth...still impressive feat for a jaguar.
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Post by Super Communist on Jan 4, 2012 15:23:44 GMT -5
On land I agree but I am not so sure in water.
To be fair the jaguar most likely caught the caiman unaware.
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Post by Taurus on Jan 4, 2012 15:33:44 GMT -5
^ it doesn't matter if the jaguar caught an unawared caiman, it still has the caiman in its mouth and the water is pretty deep for a jaguar. Anyways I do think that a false gharial can just drown the jaguar but the gharial is ill suited to hold a large struggling animal.
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Post by Super Communist on Jan 4, 2012 15:40:24 GMT -5
Which would be harder to subdue a caiman that's actively holding its ground (so to speak) or a surprised caiman that has its skull suddenly gripped by a jaguar?
And how is a jaguar going to be able to restrain an animal two to three times it size?
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Post by Taurus on Jan 4, 2012 15:53:27 GMT -5
Which would be harder to subdue a caiman that's actively holding its ground (so to speak) or a surprised caiman that has its skull suddenly gripped by a jaguar? And how is a jaguar going to be able to restrain an animal two to three times it size? Given the fact that crocodiles on the land have been killed by big cat (regardless of health), and big cats often got the job done if done carefully. Of course they took their time to outflank a crocodile then goes in a kill. And how is a gharial going to be to restrain a big cat which is larger than all natural prey item? That's my question to you.
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