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Post by Boldchamp on Nov 20, 2011 6:11:03 GMT -5
Thanks, man. With that last comparison, i didn`t have to resize any of the pics. Those were the sizes already, so i left it like that, and just removed the background.
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Post by apexpredator7 on Nov 30, 2011 14:52:59 GMT -5
lion takes this, speed and agility will help it a lot
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Post by Deinobrontornis on Nov 30, 2011 19:55:14 GMT -5
lion takes this, speed and agility will help it a lot Grizzly bears run up to 35 mph, male lions run up to a similar maximum speed. Speed does not help. The grizzly bear also happens to have a more powerful bite force, is more intelligent, and is much bigger (600 lb. bear vs. 440 lb. lion). |
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Post by Boldchamp on Dec 4, 2011 14:06:49 GMT -5
lion takes this, speed and agility will help it a lot Grizzly bears run up to 35 mph, male lions run up to a similar maximum speed. Speed does not help. The grizzly bear also happens to have a more powerful bite force, is more intelligent, and is much bigger (600 lb. bear vs. 440 lb. lion). Actually, the most accepted speed of the bear is 30 - 31.65 mph......they are generally slower than male lions, who has indeed actually been clocked at 35 mph, if anyone cares to see it? I don`t have an actual timing, but instead got an email from Chris Haden on the speed of some of the animals clocked by Bhaghavan Antle. And, the truly large bears aren`t capable of those speeds. |
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Post by Super Communist on Dec 4, 2011 14:49:13 GMT -5
This bear was able to prevent a pack wolves from outflanking it;
What could a single lion accomplish?
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Post by Boldchamp on Dec 4, 2011 15:41:47 GMT -5
This bear was able to prevent a pack wolves from outflanking it; What could a single lion accomplish? The wolves were timed too, at 31 mph. About the speed i thought it should be, and roughly as fast as the hyena, and of course.....lions are faster than that. But, that bear was very agile, likely because it was young, and small. But, lions are a bit more agile. After all, they must sometimes handle at least as many hyenas, all of whom would attempt to encircle if brave enough. |
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Post by Super Communist on Dec 4, 2011 16:46:28 GMT -5
That's barely slower than a lion.
It was still much larger and most likely less agile than the wolves and it still prevented them from attacking its flanks, so I doubt a lion would be able to run circles around a bear when it can keep multiple opponents out of its blind spots.
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Post by jumbo1 on Jun 14, 2012 1:44:36 GMT -5
Grizzly lays a smackdown. He's much bigger, stronger, smarter, more stable in an upright position, and a better grappler. I'm saying this on the grounds that lion stands on 3 legs to swat with the 4th paw. Grizzly stands upright.
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Post by Venomous Dragon on Jun 14, 2012 2:22:00 GMT -5
actually there weight ranges overlap a parity match is possible, so the bear may not always be bigger.
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Post by jumbo1 on Jun 14, 2012 2:28:47 GMT -5
Screw parity matchups. That's another desperation tactic by the feline camp because it shows they know a cat can't beat a certain foe in normal circumstances. So they ask for parity.
I mean should we scale down an elephant to the size of a chimpanzee so the ape can win using his arms?
See how idiotic that sounds?
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Post by Venomous Dragon on Jun 14, 2012 3:00:09 GMT -5
Screw parity matchups. That's another desperation tactic by the feline camp because it shows they know a cat can't beat a certain foe in normal circumstances. So they ask for parity. I mean should we scale down an elephant to the size of a chimpanzee so the ape can win using his arms? See how idiotic that sounds? Thats not how it works, elephants are never that small. Lions can be as heavy or even heavier than an interior grizzly bear. |
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Post by Anomonyous on Jun 16, 2012 10:07:39 GMT -5
Presumably we're using average weights, so the whole parity thing does sound awful stupid, no offense, to me.
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Post by Ultimategrid on Jun 17, 2012 1:44:26 GMT -5
Presumably we're using average weights, so the whole parity thing does sound awful stupid, no offense, to me. I find that parity is a stupid thing to have, certain animals sacrifice size for speed, and vice-versa, declaring parity forces one animal to give up the advantage that it evolved to kill with(in this case size). |
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Post by Venomous Dragon on Jun 17, 2012 17:57:13 GMT -5
Bears have highly varied weight averages depending on where they live, so honestly I have no idea what you guys are talking about. costal bears average far larger but some populations average about the same size as lions.
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Post by mobster on Nov 27, 2012 15:38:00 GMT -5
Presumably we're using average weights, so the whole parity thing does sound awful stupid, no offense, to me. I find that parity is a stupid thing to have, certain animals sacrifice size for speed, and vice-versa, declaring parity forces one animal to give up the advantage that it evolved to kill with(in this case size). Both of you guys are absolutely correct. Lion fans can't stand it when the other animal surpasses the lion in size and ability. Lion fans even argue that tigers are not the largest cat, a statement that is repeated in countless books, documentaries, and every source imaginable. So I would urge you two NEVER to trust lion fans when it comes to making size estimates. Straight from the experts of National Geographic animals.nationalgeographic.com/animals/mammals/grizzly-bear/ Weight: 800 lbs (363 kg) animals.nationalgeographic.com/animals/mammals/african-lion/?source=A-to-Z 265 to 420 lbs (120 to 191 kg) In other words the lion is gonna his world rocked upside down inside out. |
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