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Post by Super Communist on Dec 15, 2011 0:10:44 GMT -5
The body of the wild boar is compact; the head is large, the legs relatively short. The fur consists of stiff bristles and usually finer fur. The color usually varies from dark grey to black or brown, but there are great regional differences in color; even whitish animals are known from central Asia. During winter the fur is much denser. Adult boars measure 90–200 cm (35–79 in) in length, not counting a tail of 15–40 cm (5.9–16 in), and have a shoulder height of 55–110 cm (22–43 in). As a whole, their average weight is 50–90 kg (110–200 pounds), though boars show a great deal of weight variation within their geographical ranges. In central Italy, their weight usually ranges from 80 to 100 kg (180 to 220 lb) while boars shot in Tuscany have been recorded to weigh up to 150 kg (331 lb). An unusually large French specimen shot in Negremont forest in Ardenne in 1999 weighed 227 kg (550 lb). Carpathian boars have been recorded to reach weights of 200 kg (441 lb). Romanian and Russian boars can reach weights of 300 kg (661 lb), while unconfirmed giants reported in early Russian hunting journals have reportedly weighed up to 320 kg (710 lb). Generally speaking, native Eurasian boars follow Bergmann's rule, with smaller boars nearer the tropics and larger, smaller-eared boars in the North of their range. Mature sows from Southeast Asia and southern India may weigh as little as 44 kg (97 lb). Adult males develop tusks, continuously growing teeth that protrude from the mouth, from their upper and lower canine teeth. These serve as weapons and tools. The upper tusks are bent upwards in males, and are regularly ground against the lower ones to produce sharp edges. The tusks normally measure about 6 cm (2.4 in), in exceptional cases even 12 cm (4.7 in). Females also have sharp canines, but they are smaller, and not protruding like the males' tusks. The jaguar is a compact and well-muscled animal. There are significant variations in size and weight: weights are normally in the range of 56–96 kilograms (124–211 lb). Larger males have been recorded at as much as 160 kg (350 lb) (roughly matching a tigress or lioness), and the smallest females have low weights of 36 kg (79 lb). Females are typically 10–20% smaller than males. The length of the cat varies from 1.2 to 1.95 m (3.9 to 6.4 ft), and its tail may add a further 45 to 75 cm (18 to 30 in). It stands about 63 to 76 cm (25 to 30 in) tall at the shoulders. Like the slightly smaller Old World leopard, this cat is relatively short and stocky in build. Further variations in size have been observed across regions and habitats, with size tending to increase from the north to south. A study of the jaguar in the Chamela-Cuixmala Biosphere Reserve on the Mexican Pacific coast, showed ranges of just about 50 kilograms (110 lb), about the size of the cougar. By contrast, a study of the Jaguar in the Brazilian Pantanal region found average weights of 100 kilograms (220 lb) and weights of 136 kilograms (300 lb) or more are not uncommon in old males. Forest jaguars are frequently darker and considerably smaller than those found in open areas (the Pantanal is an open wetland basin), possibly due to the smaller numbers of large herbivorous prey in forest areas. A short and stocky limb structure makes the jaguar adept at climbing, crawling and swimming. The head is robust and the jaw extremely powerful. The jaguar has the strongest bite of all felids, capable of biting down with 2,000 pounds-force (8,900 N). This is twice the strength of a lion and the second strongest of all mammals after the spotted hyena; this strength is an adaptation that allows the jaguar to pierce turtle shells. A comparative study of bite force adjusted for body size ranked it as the top felid, alongside the clouded leopard and ahead of the lion and tiger. It has been reported that "an individual jaguar can drag a 360 kg (800 lb) bull 8 m (26 ft) in its jaws and pulverize the heaviest bones". The jaguar hunts wild animals weighing up to 300 kilograms (660 lb) in dense jungle, and its short and sturdy physique is thus an adaptation to its prey and environment. The base coat of the jaguar is generally a tawny yellow, but can range to reddish-brown and black. The cat is covered in rosettes for camouflage in its jungle habitat. The spots vary over individual coats and between individual Jaguars: rosettes may include one or several dots, and the shape of the dots varies. The spots on the head and neck are generally solid, as are those on the tail, where they may merge to form a band. The underbelly, throat and outer surface of the legs and lower flanks are white.
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Post by Reticulatus on Dec 15, 2011 14:12:58 GMT -5
there is a lot of regional variation in size among wild boars. most types the jaguar would have no problem subdueing. the huge siberian type fight off tiger and bears on occasion and could probably do the same to a jaguar.
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Post by Canid Cetus Aves on Dec 15, 2011 15:57:39 GMT -5
^ Ya it depends on what sizes we are talking about. If this fight is at parity however I would favour the Leopard.
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Post by Super Communist on Dec 15, 2011 17:09:28 GMT -5
Much smaller peccaries are able to hold their own against jaguars;
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Post by Deinobrontornis on Dec 16, 2011 15:47:15 GMT -5
Canis Cetus Aves, this is a jaguar!
It honestly depends on the size of the boar and the jaguar. Assuming it is an averaged size jaguar (80 kg [176 lbs]), then I would favor it against a boar most of the time. Not only is the jaguar on average larger than the boar, but it has a powerful skull-crushing bite and sharp claws which can grab on to the boar and control it. A boar has a thick hide and 12 cm (4.7 in) tusks, but it lacks the sharp claws and limbs to control an opponent. I think a boar would need at least a 40% size advantage in order to kill a jaguar.
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Post by Gun on Dec 16, 2011 16:02:20 GMT -5
It depends more in the individual boar than size. Some very huge boars can be easily subdued, while some of the boars between 60 and 100 kgs are actually the most dangerous and deadly.The jaguar would be very liable to be killed even with a weight advantage, in fact it might be more likely than with a bigger slower boar. The jaguar definitely has the capacity to kill a boar, and a big boar, it is in that eschalon of predator. But more often than not on a nasty fighter of a boar in a face to face altercation (lets say at parity)? I don't think so. No predator can really lay claim to that.
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Post by Canid Cetus Aves on Dec 16, 2011 22:43:00 GMT -5
Canis Cetus Aves, this is a jaguar!
It honestly depends on the size of the boar and the jaguar. Assuming it is an averaged size jaguar (80 kg [176 lbs]), then I would favor it against a boar most of the time. Not only is the jaguar on average larger than the boar, but it has a powerful skull-crushing bite and sharp claws which can grab on to the boar and control it. A boar has a thick hide and 12 cm (4.7 in) tusks, but it lacks the sharp claws and limbs to control an opponent. I think a boar would need at least a 40% size advantage in order to kill a jaguar. Shoot! Sorry. I meant to say Jaguar.
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Post by Venomous Dragon on Dec 17, 2011 20:40:40 GMT -5
This could be compared to leopard vs warthog. interactions between the two could be beneficial to this thread.
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Post by LeopJag on Dec 17, 2011 21:46:05 GMT -5
There are lots of introduced boar in Argentina...if jaguars begin expanding their range further south, they would start preying on them.
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Post by Canid Cetus Aves on Dec 17, 2011 21:47:08 GMT -5
This could be compared to leopard vs warthog. interactions between the two could be beneficial to this thread. Yes. It's similar.
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Post by tazman on Dec 19, 2011 7:32:00 GMT -5
This could be compared to leopard vs warthog. interactions between the two could be beneficial to this thread. Yes. It's similar. Not really, warthogs don't really compare to wild boars in terms of fighting. They are more designed for running than any other suid and certainly do not compare to wild boars in terms of combative ability.
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Post by Super Communist on Dec 19, 2011 15:10:42 GMT -5
Leopards seem to have a difficult time subduing warthogs even with the aid of ambush.
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Post by Taurus on Jan 3, 2012 19:40:46 GMT -5
Jaguars do prey on feral hogs as they do existed in Jaguar's habitats.
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Post by jumbo on May 17, 2012 2:07:16 GMT -5
www.highadventureranch.com/russian_boar.html "At High Adventure Ranch, we are one of the few to have the prized Russian boar available. Our pure strains have grown huge in size weighing up to 550 pounds with tusks up to five inches. The Russian boar is built like a SHERMAN TANK so you will want to bring the biggest caliber rifle or pistol you have. Bow hunters will need plenty of arrows. These wild boars have a very thick hide and are extremely tough. They can be killed clean if hit in the proper areas, but it can be very challenging." A wild boar will trounce a jaguar utterly. I don't think even a lion/tiger would have a chance in hell against such a beast let alone a 200LB jaguar.
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Post by Venomous Dragon on May 17, 2012 21:24:46 GMT -5
www.highadventureranch.com/russian_boar.html "At High Adventure Ranch, we are one of the few to have the prized Russian boar available. Our pure strains have grown huge in size weighing up to 550 pounds with tusks up to five inches. The Russian boar is built like a SHERMAN TANK so you will want to bring the biggest caliber rifle or pistol you have. Bow hunters will need plenty of arrows. These wild boars have a very thick hide and are extremely tough. They can be killed clean if hit in the proper areas, but it can be very challenging." A wild boar will trounce a jaguar utterly. I don't think even a lion/tiger would have a chance in hell against such a beast let alone a 200LB jaguar. Boar have a pretty big weight range but ya a big boar is a real monster.
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