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Post by Reticulatus on Feb 20, 2012 12:58:00 GMT -5
What infraorder of Squamata do you think is most intelligent?
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Post by Ultimategrid on Feb 20, 2012 21:50:20 GMT -5
I'd have to say that monitor lizards appear to be the most intelligent reptiles overall. For snakes, retics, boas and tree pythons appear to be the smartest.
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Post by Venomous Dragon on Feb 20, 2012 22:36:36 GMT -5
Varanoidea has this with Iguania and Scincomorpha coming in second because some species in the two groups are very smart (for reptiles) indeed.
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Post by Felis Rex on Feb 20, 2012 22:44:54 GMT -5
Varanids seem to be the consensus, but there seems to be a good case for bearded dragons
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Post by Venomous Dragon on Feb 20, 2012 22:57:45 GMT -5
Dragons very massively from individual to indovidual, some are right up there but most are very average amongst lizard. The most consistant are Iguanas, tegus and monitors IMO anyway.
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Post by Reticulatus on Feb 21, 2012 2:04:07 GMT -5
I find pythons to be very aware compared to some other reptiles. They are from personal experience the brilliant problem solvers. I admit not having as much hands on experience with monitors but I would place pythons above iguanas.
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Post by Venomous Dragon on Feb 21, 2012 2:28:48 GMT -5
Iguanids excel at trainabilty (They trust easier and are more food oriented) but IMO are less intellegent Than monitors and tegus. I have had to turn my niles costum cage into a wodden prison to keep him in there. In one instance He lined his muzzle up to one of the seems, postioned him self to gain enough leverage and proceeded to push the damn wall off!, hes only 3 1/2 feet long! (thats when I learned to use screws instead of nails). once the walls were steadfast (he tested them) he turned his attention to climbing out, which at first seemed to fail over and over but he eventually (dont ask me how) loosened one of the wooden planks that made up his lid and escaped that way. The savannah was granted free roaming privledges by mother, due to its placid nature, so has no need to escape. It leaves and returns to its cage at its own leasure. My brother had a red tailed boa and it never showed anything close to the problem solving ability of my nile.
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Post by Reticulatus on Feb 21, 2012 3:25:10 GMT -5
I wouldn't credit boas with the same inteligence as pythons. Other than being escape artist and being very receptive to food training their understanding of humans is amazing. They really study your routine. You can tell when they are waiting for you. They can even pick you ut in a crowd. The ball python I have now hides from our cat but studies our dogs with interest. Sometimes it seems like they are training you.
Other snakes that stand out, I once owned a particularly crafty rat snake, he made several escapes that mystify me to this day.
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