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Post by Deinobrontornis on Jul 1, 2012 20:47:17 GMT -5
BAH! Humans have small arms, gorillas have huge arms; humans have long legs, gorillas have short legs; humans have small jaws, gorillas have large jaws; humans have rather thin bones, gorillas have thick bones; and finally, humans are exclusively bipedal, gorillas are partially bipedal. You'll have more success physically comparing a gorilla to a panda or some other bear than an actual human. Compare: Estimate, measure, or note the similarity or dissimilarity between. look at that you just compared a human to a gorilla. Are you being a smart ass or do you truly understand what I means? I'll give you lecture if you don't.
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Post by Venomous Dragon on Jul 1, 2012 20:55:56 GMT -5
Compare: Estimate, measure, or note the similarity or dissimilarity between. look at that you just compared a human to a gorilla. Are you being a smart ass or do you truly understand what I means? I'll give you lecture if you don't. You said that you cant compare them then you proceeded to compare them, I wasn't being as much of a smartass as you were being straight up stupid. Lecture me? Pfft post it if you want i'll simply delete it,now stay on topic or shut up.
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Post by jumbo1 on Jul 1, 2012 21:02:33 GMT -5
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Post by Deinobrontornis on Jul 1, 2012 21:02:44 GMT -5
Are you being a smart ass or do you truly understand what I mean? I'll give you lecture if you don't. You said that you cant compare them then you proceeded to compare them, I wasn't being as much of a smartass as you were being straight up stupid. Lecture me? Pfft post it if you want i'll simply delete it,now stay on topic or shut up. Using a human as an analogy to a gorilla in terms of physical prowess and structure is very poor. You should understand this by the points I just gave. At least a bear shares similar robustness, walking habits, intelligence, strength, and jaw structure to a gorilla. Jumbo! You're also acting smart. I am arguing that a human is a very poor analogy to a gorilla. Don't put words in my mouth!
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Post by Venomous Dragon on Jul 1, 2012 21:09:43 GMT -5
Stop baselessly saying I hate or dislike apes, It's starting to annoy me. back up your accusation or quit making it.
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Post by jumbo1 on Jul 1, 2012 21:09:50 GMT -5
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Post by Venomous Dragon on Jul 1, 2012 21:13:44 GMT -5
You said that you cant compare them then you proceeded to compare them, I wasn't being as much of a smartass as you were being straight up stupid. Lecture me? Pfft post it if you want i'll simply delete it,now stay on topic or shut up. Using a human as an analogy to a gorilla in terms of physical prowess and structure is very poor. You should understand this by the points I just gave. At least a bear shares similar robustness, walking habits, intelligence, strength, and jaw structure to a gorilla. Jumbo! You're also acting smart. I am arguing that a human is a very poor analogy to a gorilla. Don't put words in my mouth!honestly Im well aware that humans are not in same league as gorillas when it comes to strength or robustness,I only used the cat account to try and prove a point to jumbo.... and it was completely lost on him.
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Post by jumbo1 on Jul 1, 2012 21:20:05 GMT -5
Well I think DB and I have proved our points with sources. toughgorilla.com/Mountain-Gorilla.htm "The hairs of mountain gorilla are much longer and thick than ordinary gorilla and they typically dwell on mountains at higher altitudes. It's long and thick hairs let is fight with extremely hot or extremely cold climate at higher altitudes." So the gorilla's long, thick hair could also provide protection from the lion's claws and teeth. Anyway, I've gotten my arguments across regarding this topic. If someone sees a lion defeating a gorilla, contact me and I'll admit I'm wrong. Otherwise I stand by my belief. P.S if you don't dislikes apes, VD, wouldn't you support them?
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Post by Venomous Dragon on Jul 1, 2012 21:28:59 GMT -5
Well I think DB and I have proved our points with sources. toughgorilla.com/Mountain-Gorilla.htm "The hairs of mountain gorilla are much longer and thick than ordinary gorilla and they typically dwell on mountains at higher altitudes. It's long and thick hairs let is fight with extremely hot or extremely cold climate at higher altitudes." So the gorilla's long, thick hair could also provide protection from the lion's claws and teeth. Anyway, I've gotten my arguments across regarding this topic. If someone sees a lion defeating a gorilla, contact me and I'll admit I'm wrong. Otherwise I stand by my belief. My GAWD jumbo you finally brought up a valid point,Instead of some out of context account of a little girl fighting a leopard with a spoon, you actually posted something relevant. These are the kinds points That actually need to be addressed, The long hair will definitely help protect the gorilla from the lion's claws ,the lion's canine will still be effective however. Ps. Jumbo I like frogs but i dont support them in fights, I like animals for more than just combat ability.
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Post by jumbo1 on Jul 1, 2012 21:34:12 GMT -5
Oh and last thing to add: www.youtube.com/watch?v=o67eyP6zmpM see how much trouble the lionesses have landing hind leg clawing? The gorilla simply has to move behind the lioness as he grapples with her front legs. Even if they hit, notice they barely do any damage to each other- let alone to a 470LB thickly furred silverback.
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Post by Venomous Dragon on Jul 1, 2012 22:06:22 GMT -5
Oh and last thing to add: www.youtube.com/watch?v=o67eyP6zmpM see how much trouble the lionesses have landing hind leg clawing? The gorilla simply has to move behind the lioness as he grapples with her front legs. Even if they hit, notice they barely do any damage to each other- let alone to a 470LB thickly furred silverback. Dont think hind leg clawing is used to actually seriously harm the opponent Sure you might get the odd account of disembowelment but its hardly the norm, I think its mostly used to cause pain to the oppenent if they are in a dominant position in hope that the pain will cause them to back off.
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Post by LeopJag on Jul 1, 2012 22:31:15 GMT -5
From what i've read the skin of carnivorans is more resistant to lacerations or breakage than that of primates, as it is thicker and looser. when i find the study i'll post it..
Though i know from personal experience that cat's claws go through human skin like an knife through soft butter...yet when two cats fight they appear not inflict damage on each other so easily.
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Post by jumbo1 on Jul 1, 2012 23:43:44 GMT -5
answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100220064800AALcebY anecdotal evidence of animals observed almost casually bending and snapping objects such as tempered steel bars and bamboo stalks, suggest that the gorilla has the muscle power of between 8-15 men and possibly more. Jersey Zoos Jambo was observed to hang from one arm while ripping over 200 ft of ceiling planks from the roof of the new gorilla house with his other arm (planks were securely screwed), simply because he didn't like them. Bushman of Chicago Zoo used to stretch a pneumatic car tyre the whole breadth of his armspan - a seemingly impossible feat and he also used to burst footballs while carrying them under his arm whilst running. Gorillas also have one of the most powerful jaws of any animal, which they use to get to the piths of various trees and plants. They can also use them in defence, and can inflict serious wounds with their bites if they so wish. Very few animals can match the incredible superhuman strength of a silverback gorilla. www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10809295 If a man with a sufficient adrenaline burst can lift a 3000 LB car, a gorilla easily has enough arm strength to flip a family sedan. In a grappling fight, a gorilla will overpower the big cat quickly.
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Post by apexpredator7 on Jul 3, 2012 10:11:05 GMT -5
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Post by Deinobrontornis on Jul 3, 2012 17:39:48 GMT -5
BAHAHA! Glass, really? Bone is much thicker than glass. In fact, bone is 4 times thicker than concrete! And since a lion's skull is about 1.5 inches, thick a gorilla would need to be able to shatter a brick wall 6 inches thick in order to match the force needed to kill a lion. Show me a gorilla shattering 6 inches of concrete or brick in one a punch and I'll believe you. Fine! That is what I was trying to get across.
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