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Post by thunderhawk on May 15, 2012 12:48:32 GMT -5
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Post by DinosaurMichael on May 15, 2012 12:57:38 GMT -5
Hmm I'm not sure. I'll say Auroch since they are more robust and build for fighting.
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Post by thunderhawk on May 15, 2012 13:07:31 GMT -5
They are pretty equal in size. I'm not sure whether the deer's antlers were really deadly though. They could be pretty fragile.
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Post by DinosaurMichael on May 15, 2012 13:07:52 GMT -5
They are pretty equal in size. I'm not sure whether the deer's antlers were really deadly though. They could be pretty fragile. True. |
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Post by ansalon on May 15, 2012 13:31:58 GMT -5
I favor bovines over cervids when the two are close to the same weight. An Auroch might have been even bigger. It should win at least 8/10 times.
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Post by Venomous Dragon on May 15, 2012 18:21:21 GMT -5
^I concur
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Post by jumbo1 on Jul 21, 2012 6:20:01 GMT -5
I'd back the bovid due to his more solid build and the fact that megaloceros may not have used its antlers to fight at all. www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/mammal/artio/irishelk.html A more modern interpretation of the function of the antlers in the giant deer suggest that they were used for sexual displays, as they are in living deer. Some living deer use their antlers in ritualized combats at mating time, in which few individuals actually get hurt. It is possible that the Irish elk used its antlers in this way, but there is another possibility: The antlers of the Irish elk face forward, to show maximum area when the animal looks straight ahead. They may not have been used in combat at all, but simply served as visual signals during courtship. |
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Post by Cr1TiKaL on Dec 15, 2013 8:46:37 GMT -5
Aurochs wins this pretty easily. It's bigger, has better weaponry and would most likely be the aggressor here against the cervid.
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Post by Dinopithecus on Dec 15, 2013 9:21:46 GMT -5
Yep, Bos primigenius takes this. Bulkier and better weapons. I don't doubt Megaloceros' antlers can be used as weapons even in interspecific conflict, but given their size, they'd obviously be more unwieldy than the bovine's horns and I think the antler tines might be insufficient enough to kill such a more robustly built animal (at least not without numerous gorings from the antlers). Bos primigenius 90% of the time.
By the way, couldn't this fight have actually happened? They both lived in Europe during the Pleistocene and Holocene (the bovid surviving even longer than the cervid).
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Post by Just some guy on Oct 8, 2015 14:17:20 GMT -5
Yep, Bos primigenius takes this. Bulkier and better weapons. I don't doubt Megaloceros' antlers can be used as weapons even in interspecific conflict, but given their size, they'd obviously be more unwieldy than the bovine's horns and I think the antler tines might be insufficient enough to kill such a more robustly built animal (at least not without numerous gorings from the antlers). Bos primigenius 90% of the time. By the way, couldn't this fight have actually happened? They both lived in Europe during the Pleistocene and Holocene (the bovid surviving even longer than the cervid). Forget 90%. I still think Bos will most likely win this, even at similar weights, although I think Megaloceros would be a formidable opponent. I think the cervid was in fact able to use its antlers for combat (Kitchener, 1987) and the antler span was not only freaking enormous, the tines are long, so the antlers could cause serious damage and it would be hard to get past them. That said, I think perhaps the bovid's greater bulk (although Megaloceros is pretty respectable in this regard as well) will help it win out. |
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