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Post by DinosaurMichael on Jun 29, 2012 6:01:01 GMT -5
I think he means some people overrate Spinosaurus and some underrate it(as I said on the first page). Cape buffalo are preyed on by lions. This is to scale; [img src=" img502.imageshack.us/img502/3398/ceratosaurusskull.jpg" width=209 height=129 src="http://www.freeclipartnow.com/d/6536-1/lion-skull.jpg"] Oh well I think Spinosaurs is underrated in my opinion. Also Lions hunt Cape Buffalos by prides and even then Cape Buffalos sometimes get the better of them being capable of killing some of the Lions in that pride. If it was one Lion. A Lion wouldn't stand a chance against a Cape Buffalo. I did however hear of one report where a lone Lion killed a Cape Buffalo, but such an event like that is very rare and for all we know that Cape Buffalo could've been likely sick or not fully grown.
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Post by Tyrannosaurus on Jul 1, 2012 16:37:04 GMT -5
Yeah, it's still a mismatch. Lions hunt in prides but buffalo travel in herds. I'd favor a cape buffalo over a single lion, but they do stand a chance. The Ceratosaurus is bigger, faster, and far better armed than the cape buffalo.
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Post by DinosaurMichael on Jul 1, 2012 17:17:35 GMT -5
Yeah, it's still a mismatch. Lions hunt in prides but buffalo travel in herds. I'd favor a cape buffalo over a single lion, but they do stand a chance. The Ceratosaurus is bigger, faster, and far better armed than the cape buffalo. Well in my opinion. I wouldn't call it a mismatch, but I agree that Ceratosaurus would win.
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Post by jumbo1 on Jul 2, 2012 22:56:21 GMT -5
Another overrated animal is the wolf. When they hunt animals larger than themselves, it's usually in groups against weak individuals. 1 on 1, wolverines have beaten wolves.
Also just because the wolf is a wild animal doesn't make it more aggressive than a domestic dog. I am more likely to be confronted and attacked by say a Rottweiler than a wolf.
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Post by Tyrannosaurus on Jul 2, 2012 23:19:18 GMT -5
I am more likely to be confronted and attacked by say a Rottweiler than a wolf. If that is a real statistic you read and not made up, it doesn't accurately measure the aggressiveness of wolves. You're far more likely to see a rottweiler than a wolf.
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Post by Super Communist on Jul 24, 2012 11:25:06 GMT -5
You know I am starting to get the impression tyrannosaurus isn't overrated anymore.
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Post by jumbo1 on Jul 25, 2012 5:59:47 GMT -5
There was a thread on 4 t-rexes vs alamosaurus which a few thought the rexes would win. So t-rex is overrated www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/12/111207132918.htm Alamosaurus was N America's biggest dinosaur and rivaled Argentinosaurus in size. Saurpods are underrated on the other hand. They're the top of the pyramid when it comes to anti-predator tanks. It's safe to say a sauropod like brachiosaurus in prime condition would've been untouchable to predators.
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Post by Super Communist on Jul 25, 2012 6:29:37 GMT -5
^Yeah but they're are also people that think that giganotosaurus has a stronger bite than it just because its brain takes up two more inches of space. Trex has an almost equal amount of fanboys and haters so I don't consider it to be overrated anymore.
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Post by jumbo1 on Jul 25, 2012 7:15:16 GMT -5
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Post by Ultimategrid on Jul 25, 2012 14:46:39 GMT -5
You don't need a high bite force when your teeth glide through flesh like a hot knife through butter. Bite force has little to do with the animal's bite, if you have sharp enough teeth you don't need a high bite force. For example a komodo dragon has a very low bite force, however it can slice through the tough hide of a deer or pig with ease. Crocodile monitors weighing less than 15lbs can incapacitate the entire limb of a fit human male with a single bite, and that is only due to their incredibly sharp flesh-rending teeth. Besides if anything sharks are very underrated on animal forums, claims that dolphins can kill great whites, and that the latter stands little chance against a much slower crocodile even in deep water.
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Post by jumbo1 on Jul 26, 2012 6:46:07 GMT -5
After debating the Human vs Wolf thread I'm starting to feel dogs (depends which breed) are overrated. People seem to think a man can barely handle a GSD in a fight despite numerous intellect and dexterity advantages the man possesses. Compared to the dog's 1 jaw. It's very predictable how a dog will attack compared to how a human would attack.
What's so hard to believe about a man putting a dog in a rear naked choke? Kicking its exposed ribs? Holding its jaws shut? Does a dog have a way to immobilize 1 limb and at the same time defend himself from the man's fists and other leg?
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Post by Anomonyous on Jul 26, 2012 7:47:15 GMT -5
The link isn't loading but great white sharks can produce a bite force of 13,000 newtons in the front of their jaws and 18,000 in the back. Their jaws may not be very strong relative to size but they're large enough so that it doesn't matter anyway. ^Yeah but they're are also people that think that giganotosaurus has a stronger bite than it just because its brain takes up two more inches of space. I think that was our friend DRKGRCR. He thought giganotosaurus would have a stronger bite because Tyrannosaurus has better vision, a larger brain, and possibly a better sense of smell. (<I don't know about that) I responded by saying that the space occupied by jaw muscles aren't also room for sensory organs and brain mass. If you sniff while you have a cold you don't clamp your jaws down. There was a thread on 4 t-rexes vs alamosaurus which a few thought the rexes would win. So t-rex is overrated With all due respect I don't think you can coin Tyrannosaurus overrated on that match without fully debating it. If you'd like, you can head over there and discuss it further; Tyrannosaurus (member) made a new size comparison. The guy in the prison was closer to the average human than a "semi-average incompetent". He did kick the dog (on the head, no less) and it simply pissed it off. He then tried to restrain it without success.
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Post by jumbo1 on Jul 26, 2012 8:20:51 GMT -5
I posted a source stating Alamosaurus rivaled Argentinosaurus in size. Alamosaurus is the biggest dinosaur in N. America and also one of the largest sauropods. I can't for the life of me see how 4 t-rexes can fell such a behemoth.
I do feel sorry for DarkGricer BTW. I heard he got banned and the topic went into lockdown. Tip our hats to the man.
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Post by Super Communist on Jul 26, 2012 8:32:33 GMT -5
Naw, a lot pf people are using that argument nowadays, I believe there is another member on carnivora that used it too.
I am pretty sure there was a study that said a larger brain could affect jaw power, but since tyrannosaurus had jaws built for crushing bone and a brain tiny in proportion to its body, I doubt that it would be bested by a flesh ripper.
Well if you watch videos of dogs attacking people it usually ends with a screaming person on the ground.
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Post by jumbo1 on Jul 26, 2012 8:37:08 GMT -5
had we replaced that poor city clerk (who probably never worked out in his life) with a Spartan warrior or a samurai, it would be an entirely different ballgame for the dog.
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