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Post by Ultimategrid on Jun 18, 2012 22:24:22 GMT -5
Yup and Austin Stevens wrestled an anaconda with his bare hands in water. I don't think some of you understand the ferocity with which a silverback defends his family. If you watch the BBC documentaries, some Silverbacks died defending their families from poachers. He'll be fighting much harder than the snake will. That means nothing, Austin stevens is an experienced snake handler, he knows how to handle a big constrictor, a gorilla contains no such knowledge. A large 250lb anaconda (assuming it has the aggression) would kill any primate (which have a natural fear of snakes). |
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Post by Anomonyous on Jun 18, 2012 22:59:34 GMT -5
I don't think some of you understand the ferocity with which a silverback defends his family. If you watch the BBC documentaries, some Silverbacks died defending their families from poachers. He'll be fighting much harder than the snake will. Um no offense but I've had to tell you this quite a bit... These fights are forced, and are not natural confrontations. Thus, any such situation goes plop out the window. |
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Post by jumbo1 on Jun 20, 2012 19:12:20 GMT -5
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Post by Venomous Dragon on Jun 20, 2012 22:49:01 GMT -5
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Post by Ultimategrid on Jun 20, 2012 23:24:50 GMT -5
In that case then we should be using the hypothetical situation that the anaconda is attempting to eat the gorilla even though it would in real life be strictly defensive. Predatory attacks in when an anaconda is the most aggressive, the gorilla stands NO chance then, as adult humans have been killed by 20lb snakes after the snake merely griped onto their necks, think a gorilla can pry an attacking anaconda off it? |
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Post by Tyrannosaurus on Jun 20, 2012 23:42:20 GMT -5
I used to live near there. |
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Post by jumbo1 on Jun 21, 2012 1:30:21 GMT -5
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Post by Ultimategrid on Jun 21, 2012 12:37:56 GMT -5
Pfft a snake as big as someone's arm is not a big snake by any stretch, if anything seeing how this was in Australia that was likely a carpet python, a rather small animal and surely nothing compared to an anaconda, wild carpets rarely get over 15lbs. Anacondas are well over 15 pounds before their first birthday. |
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Post by Anomonyous on Jun 21, 2012 14:10:04 GMT -5
Why are people so eager to take away the scenario of the silverback defending his family? Could it be because that's when the gorilla is at its maximum aggression? Because this would give the silverback an unfair advantage. It's reckless and cares nothing for its own life. Hell, I'm a complete wimp and I could probably beat off a couple of wolves if they were attacking something I held dear. Cows are normally timid but will defend their calves fiercely. On the other hand the Anaconda is not in any such situation. |
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Post by rhino on Mar 19, 2013 22:54:16 GMT -5
In that case then we should be using the hypothetical situation that the anaconda is attempting to eat the gorilla even though it would in real life be strictly defensive. Predatory attacks in when an anaconda is the most aggressive, the gorilla stands NO chance then, as adult humans have been killed by 20lb snakes after the snake merely griped onto their necks, think a gorilla can pry an attacking anaconda off it? I agree, the snake will see the fat, stupid, lousy banana plucker with no predatory instinct as nothing more than sitting, furry pile of meat and kill it in a microsecond lol.  Okay my sarcasm and derisive tone aside..... Do people really think the anaconda will just see the gorilla, something it has never seen, as food? None of the other animals in an anaconda's habitat are comparable in build, dexterity, flexibility, etc. to a gorilla. Constricting a caiman, feral pig, tapir, capybara is a LOT easier than constricting a powerful, flexible primate than grapple. I am not saying the gorilla will win or vice versa in devastating fashion or anything. Just taking an unconventional look at things instead of jumping on the station wagon and glorifying predators as so many people seem to do. |
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Post by Venomous Dragon on Mar 19, 2013 23:14:45 GMT -5
In that case then we should be using the hypothetical situation that the anaconda is attempting to eat the gorilla even though it would in real life be strictly defensive. Predatory attacks in when an anaconda is the most aggressive, the gorilla stands NO chance then, as adult humans have been killed by 20lb snakes after the snake merely griped onto their necks, think a gorilla can pry an attacking anaconda off it? I agree, the snake will see the fat, stupid, lousy banana plucker with no predatory instinct as nothing more than sitting, furry pile of meat and kill it in a microsecond lol. Okay my sarcasm and derisive tone aside..... Do people really think the anaconda will just see the gorilla, something it has never seen, as food? None of the other animals in an anaconda's habitat are comparable in build, dexterity, flexibility, etc. to a gorilla. Constricting a caiman, feral pig, tapir, capybara is a LOT easier than constricting a powerful, flexible primate than grapple. I am not saying the gorilla will win or vice versa in devastating fashion or anything. Just taking an unconventional look at things instead of jumping on the station wagon and glorifying predators as so many people seem to do. do you know what the prey requirements for a reptile are? does it fit in my mouth and is it made of meat. They dont give two shits what its shape is. so the unfamilar creature thing doesnt work. |
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Post by rhino on Mar 19, 2013 23:27:10 GMT -5
I agree, the snake will see the fat, stupid, lousy banana plucker with no predatory instinct as nothing more than sitting, furry pile of meat and kill it in a microsecond lol. Okay my sarcasm and derisive tone aside..... Do people really think the anaconda will just see the gorilla, something it has never seen, as food? None of the other animals in an anaconda's habitat are comparable in build, dexterity, flexibility, etc. to a gorilla. Constricting a caiman, feral pig, tapir, capybara is a LOT easier than constricting a powerful, flexible primate than grapple. I am not saying the gorilla will win or vice versa in devastating fashion or anything. Just taking an unconventional look at things instead of jumping on the station wagon and glorifying predators as so many people seem to do. do you know what the prey requirements for a reptile are? does it fit in my mouth and is it made of meat. They dont give two shits what its shape is. so the unfamilar creature thing doesnt work. I wasn't saying the gorilla will win or vice versa. And I said nothing about unfamiliar shape. All I was arguing was that an anaconda (and likely vice versa) will struggle constricting an opponent like a gorilla that is flexible, functional forelimbs, grapple, and has 4 grasping hands than the usual stuff it encounters. That said, this isn't an easy fight for the gorilla either. Sounds fair? And stop cursing BTW. I can argue without resorting to profanities. So can you. |
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Post by rhino on Mar 19, 2013 23:28:19 GMT -5
anyway I'll say no more on this topic.
You favor the snake.
I say both can win.
We'll leave it at that.
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Post by Venomous Dragon on Mar 19, 2013 23:54:59 GMT -5
do you know what the prey requirements for a reptile are? does it fit in my mouth and is it made of meat. They dont give two shits what its shape is. so the unfamilar creature thing doesnt work. I wasn't saying the gorilla will win or vice versa. And I said nothing about unfamiliar shape. All I was arguing was that an anaconda (and likely vice versa) will struggle constricting an opponent like a gorilla that is flexible, functional forelimbs, grapple, and has 4 grasping hands than the usual stuff it encounters. That said, this isn't an easy fight for the gorilla either. Sounds fair? And stop cursing BTW. I can argue without resorting to profanities. So can you. I wasnt insulting you its just a phrase and one of the bonuses of giving up my admin status is I can swear all I want  |
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Post by rhino on Mar 20, 2013 16:11:35 GMT -5
I can't for the life of me understand what people gain out of cursing.
It just makes the person look disgusting, foul-mouthed, and vulgar.
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