Taurus
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Post by Taurus on Feb 25, 2012 18:07:27 GMT -5
I looked on another site and it says the exact opposite, that most attacks fail (like most predators). The point I dont think anyone has calculated the success rate of dragons, so you cant say mammal predators are more successful. Compared to how many kills that bigcats/canids made in a year, Komodo dragons makes less kills. Komodo dragons may be sucessful predators but if you want to control the overpopulations of large animals on the mainland, this dragon isnt for you as they may not able put a dent on the populations of feral animals.
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Venomous Dragon
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Post by Venomous Dragon on Feb 25, 2012 18:12:37 GMT -5
umm that happens all the time in group hunting, were only one animal starts attacking then the rest aid in finishing it off, and your video evidence bit is useless as ora are rarely video taped.
Of course meg never encountered ungulates but that has nothing to do with my point. My point is that the ora IS the closest thing to a natural large predator australia can currently get its hands on. ungulates have nothing to do with it.
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Taurus
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Post by Taurus on Feb 26, 2012 11:49:13 GMT -5
Again, where is the evidence of group hunting dragons?
The fact remain, Australia would be better off use different predators instead of Komodo dragons if they want to control the feral animal populations and actually put a dent on the populations.
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Venomous Dragon
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Post by Venomous Dragon on Feb 26, 2012 15:09:06 GMT -5
Again, where is the evidence of group hunting dragons? The fact remain, Australia would be better off use different predators instead of Komodo dragons if they want to control the feral animal populations and actually put a dent on the populations. You seem to over qualify what is group hunting, it quite simply when multiple members of one species kill single member of another species, Just because a single dragon may start the attack doesnt mean its not group hunting. Dragon group hunting is just very primitive and basic. Honestly there is not an animal on this planet other than us that can put a truly solid dent in these invasive animals population. Thats actually why im against this introduction, it simply wont work.
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Taurus
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Post by Taurus on Feb 26, 2012 15:25:54 GMT -5
Again, where is the evidence of group hunting dragons? The fact remain, Australia would be better off use different predators instead of Komodo dragons if they want to control the feral animal populations and actually put a dent on the populations. You seem to over qualify what is group hunting, it quite simply when multiple members of one species kill single member of another species, Just because a single dragon may start the attack doesnt mean its not group hunting. Dragon group hunting is just very primitive and basic. Honestly there is not an animal on this planet other than us that can put a truly solid dent in these invasive animals population. Thats actually why im against this introduction, it simply wont work. Again, I see NO evidence of dragons use a group hunting but simply feeding on already injured or dying animal. To me it is not a teamwork or a group hunting but simply feeding group, much like Tasmanian devils. So the rhinos will take over Australia? I believe that the rhinos need to be relocated if we are saving the rhino species. Believe it or not but have predators can restored into a healthy balanced ecosystem even if the animals are not native.
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Venomous Dragon
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Post by Venomous Dragon on Feb 26, 2012 15:32:32 GMT -5
The whole point is for it to have as many native animals as possible. The only way I would ever support something like this is if you were to completely convince me that australia is at the point of no return and the only way to bring the ecosystem to a balanced state is to introduce animals like these and even then I would still opt for the more natural fitting species.
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Post by rhino on May 7, 2013 20:21:06 GMT -5
As usual we humans can't solve our own problems so we're just hoping that something else can do it for us. Instead of bringing MORE animals to Australia, how about we simply just start an extermination program? Get people out there getting rid of this grass, and the cane toads, and the rabbits, because all this stuff can be USED. All these rabbits can feed the homeless, the cane toads could be fish bait or something, the grass can feed the bloody cows that america loves so much. You are the same guy who got mad and said tigers can't survive in alaska so it only makes sense you should be against this. But yeah the topic of the article itself is pretty interesting and i think could work.
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Venomous Dragon
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Post by Venomous Dragon on May 7, 2013 20:36:37 GMT -5
As usual we humans can't solve our own problems so we're just hoping that something else can do it for us. Instead of bringing MORE animals to Australia, how about we simply just start an extermination program? Get people out there getting rid of this grass, and the cane toads, and the rabbits, because all this stuff can be USED. All these rabbits can feed the homeless, the cane toads could be fish bait or something, the grass can feed the bloody cows that america loves so much. You are the same guy who got mad and said tigers can't survive in alaska so it only makes sense you should be against this. But yeah the topic of the article itself is pretty interesting and i think could work. He never said they couldnt he said it was a bad idea and you are historically bad at telling when people are angery, just saying.
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Post by rhino on May 7, 2013 21:01:40 GMT -5
I don't see why introducing elephants, rhinos, and komodos is such a terrible idea. The guy in the article sounds like he knows what he's talking about
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Venomous Dragon
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Post by Venomous Dragon on May 7, 2013 21:16:41 GMT -5
In the past this kind of stuff has never worked out.
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Post by rhino on May 10, 2013 9:14:27 GMT -5
You are the same guy who got mad and said tigers can't survive in alaska so it only makes sense you should be against this. But yeah the topic of the article itself is pretty interesting and i think could work. He never said they couldnt he said it was a bad idea and you are historically bad at telling when people are angery, just saying. *sighs* You're right I shouldn't be so sensitive. It's just that people with short fuses in general anger me.
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batcheno
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Post by batcheno on Jan 15, 2017 11:38:07 GMT -5
No that ain't a good idea
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