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Post by Reticulatus on Feb 24, 2012 13:19:21 GMT -5
Orca is as deadly as any shark. Some of the seals are very large carnivores indeed, southern elephant seals are the largest members of the order carnivora. There are also colossal squid.
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Post by Felis Rex on Feb 24, 2012 18:38:23 GMT -5
Nice cut out a portion of my sentence and then call the sentence fragment useless. It's not exactly like there's a whole I can do it too! Look how useless your statement becomes.
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Post by DinosaurMichael on Feb 24, 2012 18:41:20 GMT -5
I give it to the Bull Shark. It won't be easy though since the Seal might be more agile.
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Post by Anomonyous on Feb 24, 2012 19:28:37 GMT -5
Nice cut out a portion of my sentence and then call the sentence fragment useless. I can do it too! Look how useless your statement becomes. He was making a point about a single portion. I don't know how agile the seal is, but sharks aren't bad in that department at all.
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Post by Felis Rex on Feb 24, 2012 19:46:49 GMT -5
I don't know how agile the seal is, but sharks aren't bad in that department at all. I guess I should just not post, since your dropping gems like this.
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Post by Taurus on Feb 25, 2012 10:42:20 GMT -5
Orca is as deadly as any shark. Some of the seals are very large carnivores indeed, southern elephant seals are the largest members of the order carnivora. There are also colossal squid. Leopard seals often stay away from Elephant seal bulls and larger sealion males when it comes on the beach. Colossal squid was pretty much mystery and it was just sluggish predator that lives in deep parts of Antarctica.
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Post by Reticulatus on Feb 25, 2012 12:23:05 GMT -5
Orca is as deadly as any shark. Some of the seals are very large carnivores indeed, southern elephant seals are the largest members of the order carnivora. There are also colossal squid. Leopard seals often stay away from Elephant seal bulls and larger sealion males when it comes on the beach. Really is that what you have observed on your trips to Antarctica? or do you have a source? Colossal squid was pretty much mystery and it was just sluggish predator that lives in deep parts of Antarctica. I'm get so sick of this sluggish wrap you keep giving to the colossal squid. Anaconda and crocodiles could be described as sluggish as well but they are still capable predators. Don't just read one article and run with as law. Low metabolism just means you don't need to expend a bunch of energy to survive not that you are incapable of deadly quickness.
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Post by Taurus on Feb 25, 2012 13:38:15 GMT -5
^ what's gotten you worked up? Whats up with your attitude?
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Post by Ultimategrid on Feb 25, 2012 13:48:20 GMT -5
Nice cut out a portion of my sentence and then call the sentence fragment useless. It's not exactly like there's a whole I can do it too! Look how useless your statement becomes. Jeez I at least took a whole statement. Not half your sentence. Now can you debate, or are you just going to pick at my argument, and make bad jokes?
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Post by Reticulatus on Feb 25, 2012 14:11:40 GMT -5
^ what's gotten you worked up? Whats up with your attitude? :-[Sorry, it turned out to be a pinecone, I'll explain later. I just wanted to know where you heard or saw leopard seals avoiding other large pinnipeds. Taurus, you should know better than anyone how partial I am to the colossal squid. Anytime its mentioned I will defend it! No matter how far I have to stray from the topic lol.
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Post by Taurus on Feb 25, 2012 15:34:58 GMT -5
Taipan post pictures of leopard seals intercating with sealions and elephant seals on same beach on Old Carnivora. Leopard seals keep their distance from males of both elephant seals & sealions (well actually fur seals) as the males are highly protective of their harems when beaching on same beach.
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Post by Reticulatus on Feb 25, 2012 15:59:16 GMT -5
Well that goes to show you they must be a threat if the bulls keep them away, this is the common response of many prey animals.
You know the shark has my vote right? I would also favor a big bull shark over polar bear too but polar bears are still apex.
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Post by Taurus on Feb 25, 2012 17:50:41 GMT -5
Well that goes to show you they must be a threat if the bulls keep them away, this is the common response of many prey animals. You know the shark has my vote right? I would also favor a big bull shark over polar bear too but polar bears are still apex. Actually I believe that a leopard seal just stay away from these males because they are no match for them on the land if tried to challenge these beachmasters. Also the leopard seals don't really hunting animals on the land anyways.
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Post by Felis Rex on Feb 25, 2012 20:27:05 GMT -5
Nice cut out a portion of my sentence and then call the sentence fragment useless. I can do it too! Look how useless your statement becomes. Jeez I at least took a whole statement. Not half your sentence. Now can you debate, or are you just going to pick at my argument, and make bad jokes? You know you did literally use half my sentence, quoting the close to my sentence as if it was my whole post, for the sole purpose of making it seems useless. That of course is completely pointless as everyone can go back and read my post and see how you cut it up to undermind the quality of my contribution. As for the topic at hand, seals far less formidable than the leopard seal commonly surive shark bites. If the shark doesnt kill the seal with its first bite this agile pineped has obvious potential to turn the table on the shark. The size of each animal would come into play but at weight parity I tend to favor the bull.
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Post by Ultimategrid on Feb 25, 2012 20:36:29 GMT -5
Jeez I at least took a whole statement. Not half your sentence. Now can you debate, or are you just going to pick at my argument, and make bad jokes? You know you did literally use half my sentence, quoting the close to my sentence as if it was my whole post, for the sole purpose of making it seems useless. That of course is completely pointless as everyone can go back and read my post and see how you cut it up to undermind the quality of my contribution. As for the topic at hand, seals far less formidable than the leopard seal commonly surive shark bites. If the shark doesnt kill the seal with its first bite this agile pineped has obvious potential to turn the table on the shark. The size of each animal would come into play but at weight parity I tend to favor the bull. I am really quite sick of your attitude, change it around or do not bother replying. You stated that the leopard seal has no predators other than orcas, and therefore makes it more formidable. This was a statement, that was a part of a larger statement. This was the part of the statement I had a problem with, this is called "debating". Are you saying that I took your statement wrong? Because it was quite clear what you meant. That other than orcas leopard seals have no predators, which somehow according to you makes them suited to do battle with a Bull shark. Perenties have no natural predators either, but they live on an isolated environment away from large predators. If the leopard seal lived alongside sharks I have no doubt it would be preyed on from time to time, if the larger elephant seals can be preyed on by sharks, I have no doubt leopard seals can too. The shark can take more damage, and deal more damage. The leopard seal's only advantage is agility. I've never seen an animal that can immobilize a similar sized shark while protecting itself from the shark's teeth. The ability to survive a shark bite is insignificant, humans have survived bear attacks, does this mean we can kill a bear?
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